I have set up a forum which is far more suited to discussions of this kind. Please post further comments, questions, queries etc at http://forum.whatastate.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2

The URL for the main forum page is simply http://forum.whatastate.org.uk/

Thank you

Gabe

Do not respond – totally ignore everything you receive – hold your nerve – let them build up their own costs – beat them at their own game!

THE END!

Really, why do people like you assume you have to even talk to these cretins? You don’t have to pay them a penny. You don’t have to waste your time going to meet them. You don’t have to prove your innocence. They act without any authority and the only authority they gain over you is what you allow them, why bother even wasting your time in responding to their ridiculous claims?

An analogy to this parking charge fiasco might be that you sit in another customer’s seat in McDonalds because they went to the toilet. They then come back and demand to have their seat back or a payment of £20. I mean, really, what would you think/do? Pull out your wallet, apologise and hand over £20 or tell him to f*** off cos you are going to sit wherever the hell you like and he doesn’t own the seats in any case.

With the car parking you parked on the pub’s land. Now you got some other company demanding you pay them because of what? You didn’t buy a ticket? You did buy a ticket. This is so stupid it makes me so angry and what’s worse is that they got you all worried over nothing. You’re not a criminal, you haven’t done anything wrong, and you don’t have to answer to these retards.

I have just received a penalty notice from a pub car park who have a pay and display of £1.00, which is refunded when paying for a meal in the pub. Therefore, the purpose of the parking charge is clearly to stop people using the pub car park for general parking without using the pub itself. However, as a single mum to a toddler, I didn’t see the pay and display signs (and wasn’t looking for them because I assumed the car park was private and free) because I was concentrating on my daughter not being run over on the way to the pub entrance. Within 10 mins, I realised my mistake (and after reading a sign at the bar saying “have you paid and displayed?”) and so dashed to the car to put a ticket on the window. I paid £1.00 and then claimed my money back after paying for my food. When I got home I found the penalty charge tucked behind the wiper. I phoned the pub, who have arranged a meeting with their manager for tomorrow. However, the member of staff I spoke to made a point of saying she couldn’t guarantee I would be refunded. I’d like to go to that meeting knowing more about my rights in this case. I placed my order at the bar at 13.12, the penalty notice was issued at 13.20, I paid for my ticket at 13.22.

Would love to know your thoughts! Thanks!

Interesting site and research you have done.
A few points I would make for some of your followers:
1st, People are getting confused between bailiffs and debt collectors.
A bailiff will only become involved if the matter went to court, you lost, then refused to pay the judgement, then the claimant applied for enforcement.
A debt collector is someone with absolutely no powers whatsoever, they cannot enter your property, they cannot take goods they cannot affect your credit record. They have no more authority than a complete stranger in the street, if by some miracle they did call at your home just tell them to ‘go away’, if they refuse call the cops.They usually just confine themselves to writing letters anyway, some even in scary red ink.
Another point someone made, you cannot be clamped for an outstanding PRIVATE parking ticket, so you should have no fear returning to the original car park.
If you want to hurt the scammers back, then just ignore them and their ridiculous threatening letters, that hurts them the most, as they get no reponse they dont even know if their letters are getting through to someone, give them nothing to go on.

Just as a rider here – our party actually spent the period stated on this form, actually in the Licensed Residents and Guests lounge at the Hotel – spending almost £100 in the process. We also took many pic’s which could go some way to prove that we were there using their facilities at cost, although, rather unfortunately we never retained any receipts (who does) because we never anticipated any problems – let alone an illegal parking demand notice.

Thanks again

Alan

1. Their demands for money are ridiculous anyway. The permitted time of zero makes it all the more so. Standard advice applies here.
2. Just ignore them, it’s the path of least effort, time, and cost for you and I see no reason why you should use any of those three resources in to replying to such absolute tripe.

Two quick questions:
1. Am I correct in assuming that your standard advice still applies here?
2. Would it be best using your response letter procedure as advised right at the beginning of these posts, and follow this procedure to a conclusion? OR – just ignore the letter(s)?